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Then, some old persons said, "Humanyoo".
Someone said, "Pithora".
One said, "Sikandar".
One said, "Madan Paal was the king".
There was a big debate for a long time. Guru Ji continued to listen.
“We cannot reach them; the God's men are high. The castes, 'varnas' and kingdoms, all remain lower.”
They all became silent. The Sikhs asked, "O True King! Why did you ask? Please tell yourself".
Guru Ji said, "This is the glory of 'Naam'. Kabir was a poor weaver. Everyone knows him. And the king was the owner of large kingdoms of the world, no one knows him (now). See the glory of the 'Name'. There were thousands of Pandits, Shah, astrologers, kings, but all are unknown (now). By the grace of 'Name', Kabir is called the knowledgeable and 'Sidh' (perfect). O Sikhs! The 'Name' is great. It was 'Sikandar Shah' (who was the king during the lifetime of Kabeer). He conquered India, he bowed before Kabir Ji after seeing the miracle of Kabir. O Sikhs! He, who repeats the 'Name', is the Sikh of the Guru. Repeat the 'Name' and do the 'seva' (service) with thy hands."
Once, the Turks (Muslims) caught a Sikh and took him away with them. They circumcised ('sunnat') him, made him read 'Kalma' (a Muslim prayer). They did what their 'sharaah' (Muslim religious rules) says. They removed his hair, but, his mind was not moved. He started to recite 'Guru Guru Guru'.
They made him eat halal food and then freed him. At the time of 'Rahraas' (the Sikh evening-prayer), the Sikh bowed his head in the holy presence of Guru Ji and said, "O King! I am a Sikh. I fell unconscious in battle. The Turks (Muslims) took me away with them and did what their 'Sharaah' say. Now, what should I do? Protect my 'Dharma' of 'Sikhism'. Otherwise, I will burn myself on a pyre".
"How did they do their 'Sharaah?", Guru Ji asked.
The Sikh said, "they did my 'sunnat' (circumcised), compelled me to eat the food and cut my hair".
Guru Ji said, "Did you enjoy the company of Muslim woman?"
Sikh said, "No, I was saved by you".
Guru Ji said, "Distribute the 'Karhaah Prashaad' to the Sikhs. You are a pure Sikh. Guru has saved you".
The Hazoori Sikhs asked, "O King! How can one be a Muslim?"
Guru Ji said, "Enemies do the 'Sharaah' by force. No one becomes a Muslim by doing so. O Sikhs! When one commits adultery, (his/her) mind mixes up, only then one becomes a Muslim. The mind is the reason. Forcefully, the belief cannot be destroyed. My Sikh, who enjoys the sexual relations with a Muslim woman, is not my Sikh. If someone repents after having sexual relations with other's woman, he can be forgiven; but he, who has sexual relation with a Muslim woman, will never be forgiven".
The Sikhs said, "The Muslims forcibly copulate with Hindu women. If Sikhs get revenge, is this not good?"
Guru Ji said, "Sikh-brothers! We have to take this Panth (Sikhism) to the high position, not to a lower position. We have not to imitate the wicked.”
(It
was common practice in those days for the invaders to molest Hindu and
Sikh women, but Guru Sahib Ji forbid any retaliation in this area, so
much so that Guru Sahib Ji ordered his Sikhs never to even touch a Muslim
woman, in this way their honour was insured)
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